In this article, Winston Smith presents a transcription of a half-hour segment of a counseling session with a married couple in a case that centers around pornography and lack of intimacy in marriage. Smith records the “he said, she said,” and then adds the counselor’s reflections on his own thinking process as he responds to the counselee. Smith concludes that a counseling conversation is always a matter of deciding which thread of discussion or thought to pick up and address in real-time.